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Life After 360: No, I’m Not Going to Cut and Run. Yet.

The Yahoo! 360 Team’s blog yesterday said a lot more than it really said. Yahoo is “transitioning” 360 in early 2007 to “a more integrated Yahoo! experience.” On the surface, that sounds like a good idea. But the next sentence says something ambiguous: we “can still use all the features of Yahoo! 360 until this transition takes place in early 2008.”

What does this mean? It means to me that Yahoo 360 will be absorbed into something different. It won’t exist as we know it today. We may or may not be familiar with the new features, and we may or may not like them. The new Yahoo profile/blogging platform may be good, and it may not.

The team’s blog goes on to say that “Yahoo! 360 will transition to a new universal Yahoo! profile that will be closely tied to other relevant services across Yahoo!, and will include improved blogging capabilities.” Improved blogging capabilities are definitely a good thing. I’ve thought for a long time that Yahoo 360 could stand to improve its blogging interface. Most of us compose offline because there’s no way to save drafts of blogs, and the way we have to insert photos is cumbersome at best. A spell check would be nice, too. Yes, improvements to 360’s blogging capabilities is definitely good news.

Yahoo wants to keep us here, and assures us that our blogs, friends lists, and other content will be moved smoothly to the new platform. That’s good, but the question remains: What will that platform be?

Many of us who have looked at MASH were horrified right from the start. I’ve stayed and added and removed modules, but I’m closing my profile down. I’m really disgusted with it. If you haven’t seen it, click the link to my MASH profile and surf around. There are some really silly things going on there. It’s just too juvenile for me. I really don’t want to be associated with the word “fugly” and there’s no way to remove it from the page. It’s puerile. I’m 45, for pete’s sake. I don’t say “fugly.” And I really don’t need another pet. Two huge dogs and two little cats are plenty for me. If Yahoo thought MASH would appeal to the more mature 360 market, they were sadly mistaken in my humble opinion.

Because of the rumors of 360’s demise, and frankly because of its limitations, a number of us have been looking at other blogging and networking sites, hoping to find a place that better fulfills our needs. With the news that 360 is going to be replaced with something different, it only seems prudent.

For a long time I’ve cross-posted my blogs on I like the blog interface. It has limitations, too, but all in all it’s easy to use and the site itself is easy on the eye. It’s not a social networking site, though, and I miss the comments that get made on my blogs here on Yahoo 360. While it may be a good place to park a backup of my blog, it’s probably not where I will end up permanently.

I’ve also cross-posted on Google’s Blogspot and on Live Spaces. Blogspot is very similar to WordPress, and has the added benefit of being a Google product. Blogspot has no social networking. The networking on Live Spaces is so difficult to do that I gave up, even though I did connect with a 360 friend and another person there. I had a MySpace page but closed it down several months ago. Honestly, the noise and the glitter graphics got to me. It seemed juvenile, although not so much as MASH. MySpace is also cumbersome to use, and full of spam.

I’ve looked at other social networking sites. was awful. There were more trolls and troglodytes there than on Yahoo IM. Someone told me about Hot or Not. Talk about a meat market! Facebook has been in the news a lot lately. I’ve connected there with real life friends, college classmates, law school classmates, as well as my teenage nephews. It’s lightweight, though, for the serious blogging I want to do. It has some features I like, but not enough to hold my interest. I’ll probably keep my profile there, but Facebook won’t be my blog home.

As I was reading the comments on the most recent entries of the Yahoo!360 team blog, I kept seeing references to a site called I went there, and I have been pleased with it so far. I’ve sent everyone on my list an invitation. If you don’t get it, it’s either because I don’t have your email address or it went to your spam box.

Last night I was lying at the edge of this pool and testing the water with my fingers, not sure I want to risk getting off-balance by dipping a toe.

I found that I could upload my photos, which is more than I’ve been able to do on Yahoo 360 for quite some time. I can’t get my Flickr photostream to work here at all, and I’ve even paid for an account. Go figure. Uploading the photos was kind of slow, and belatedly I realized that I was making a new photo album when I intended to add to the one I had already created, but perhaps there is a way to combine albums. I’ll poke around and find out.

There is a place on for reviews. My reviews disappeared from my Yahoo 360 page almost a year ago and repeated complaints to customer service have been politely ignored with the same form letter at least six times. I’ve given up.

There is a place to add music to a profile page. I’m not sure I like that, unless it has a start button that a visitor will have to hit to play the music. I listen to my own music as I surf the Internet and when I’m mellowing to the soulful sounds of Miles Davis I just hate being blasted out of my complacency by Rob Zombie. Don’t get me wrong: Rob Zombie has his place, just not in my listening zone. At least, not for long, and not involuntarily. I don’t even like it when people put imeem music in their blogs unless it’s one I can control myself. Probably my migraines have something to do with that – startlement hurts when my head throbs. So does cacophony.

The migraines probably also have something to do with why I hate glitter graphics, and since html is allowed in guestbook entries here on, I’ll undoubtedly see more of them than I like. Some of my headaches are brought on by the same things that induce seizures in epileptics. Windshield wipers, strobe lights, flashing icons, and glitter graphics all fall into that category. Maybe I’ll post a notice begging for a glitter-free zone on my page there. I did that on MySpace, but it was largely ignored.

I like Multiply’s blog interface. I’ve never figured out how to do bullets and numbered lists on the Yahoo 360 blog, so that will be a nice feature. I want to explore the “attachment” feature, too. I’m not sure what it is.

The photo interface on the blog looks to be much easier than Yahoo’s. I can add a photo directly from the web, from my computer, or from a photo album I’ve already put on I can apparently put the photos wherever I want in my blog, too. I like that.

The polling possibilities have up to ten choices. If we’re voting in a blog contest that’s not enough, but frankly I like contests where everyone just participates. I’ve not got a competitive bone in my body. Really. Ten choices is plenty for most purposes.

It’s possible to import blogs from several blogging services, but unfortunately Yahoo 360 isn’t one of them. The Multiply team’s blog says they are different because they care and they respond. I’ll test their truthfulness by asking them to figure out a way for us to import our 360 blogs before the service shuts us down. The comments to blogs will undoubtedly be lost, but maybe there’s a way to preserve even them. We won’t know until we ask. Maybe if enough of us ask, we’ll actually receive. Wouldn’t that be a nice change?

Speaking of comments, has a nifty feature called “Live Replies.” According to the FAQ section, Live Replies will cause comments to appear in real time, without us having to refresh the page to see them. When we’re having a blog party that will mean that the comments will work like a huge group chat! Speaking as one who has been known to blow up the occasional blog, I can say for sure that that will be a blast!

Another thing about the comments is that they allow replies to specific comments, and the person posting the comment as well as the page owner can delete it. There is a spell check on the comment dialog box, and even after posting a comment the comment can be edited. What a nice feature! I haven’t seen that one anywhere else.

Today as more of my friends accepted my invitation to, I’ve discovered that I can set email alerts to receive notice about changes to people’s pages, and I can reply to the changes right there in my email. That means if someone comments on my blog or my guestbook, I can see it in my email and post a reply from the email, never having to go to the blog at all. Likewise, if someone posts new pictures or a blog, I can get an instant email and check it out. I’ve enjoyed this today, but it’s been a slow day at work. On a busier day, it might be a distraction.

There’s a networking option for creating groups of users with similar interests and affiliations. That is a good feature of Facebook and MySpace that I can see being put to good use here.

The links module on the top page works like a blogroll. Another thing to ask the team about is adding RSS feeds. Links to feed sites will work to an extent, but I like to see changing headlines. That was something that never really satisfied me about Yahoo 360’s feeds. I haven’t dug around the site enough to know if adding other modules to the profile page is possible.

There’s an interesting messaging system, which seems to be similar to the bulletins MySpace does. The nice thing is that you can see messages posted by the community as a whole, by just your closest contacts, or some midrange between the two. Not being a fan of chain mail, I’m not one to read a lot of bulletins and messages, but occasionally there’s an announcement that we want to make to a larger group – something like “Hey, I want to suggest a blog contest” or something like that. Private messages are also possible.

I know there is more to the site, and I just started exploring it last night. So far, gets a tentative thumbs up. We’ll see if it stays that way.

October 17, 2007 - Posted by | Yahoo 360 | , , , , , ,


  1. very interesting, but I don’t agree with you

    Comment by Idetrorce | December 15, 2007 | Reply

  2. I am a 360 refugee too and find multiply works out for me. My friends have joined. A couple are staying put on 360 waiting to see what will happen. in my case i couldn’t because my page was not working. People couldn’t get into my blog and i’ve lost count of the amount of times when i posted comments that vanished straight after i posted them to re appear hours later.

    I am not a child either, do not like mash and don’t believe that 360 should have been changed at all. Yahoo could have had the best of both worlds, keeping mash for the younger generation and 360 for those of us who had been there since day one, made it our cyber home.

    Finally Matt Warbutton’s message that no one will be affected prior to the beginning of new year? For a start they’ve done away with the 360 button and his team still doesn’t know what they are going to come up with. You’d think they would have paid attention to the feedback they got from us? No they didn’t! Thus they can’t care all that much about us.

    Comment by Ros O'Cionnaith | October 29, 2007 | Reply

  3. That’s a good point, and I will say that I’ve been blasted with music fewer times on Multiply than I ever was on MySpace, where it seemed impossible to avoid the flashing lights and the poor musical choices of others.

    All in all, my week-old experience on has been most excellent, and one I don’t regret.

    Comment by Aramink | October 24, 2007 | Reply

  4. To speak to your concern about background music on users’ Multiply pages, there’s always a balancing act between allowing the page owner to customize their “space”… and whether or not someone’s customization will ultimately be detrimental to the experience of the person who views it.

    It’s important to note that the music only plays when one views the user’s homepage (e.g., not individual content pages by the user. The reason for this is that on Multiply, content posts are typically consumed by clicking through to them from one’s message board, not from the poster’s homepage. Thus, when passively viewing content posted by the people you know, you won’t have their music get in the way. But when actively exploring another user’s site (on their homepage), you’ll get the full experience, the way they intended it.

    Comment by Everett | October 24, 2007 | Reply

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